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Chuck Lorre tells Joe Rogan societies without God turn to tyrannical ideologies

On Joe Rogan's podcast, producer Chuck Lorre said cultures that drop belief in God replace it with figures or parties like communism or fascism. Right-leaning outlets also noted his recent remarks about the Trumps.

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Right · 2Producer Chuck Lorre, who created "Two and a Half Men" and "The Big Bang Theory", discussed spirituality on "The Joe Rogan Experience" in an episode released on Tuesday 13 October. Right · 1Fox News reported that Lorre released his memoir, "Sitcom: A Memoir", the same day. Right · 2Lorre said fame, adulation and wealth are "not the real solution", and that "the real solution is a spiritual solution. You have to find something beyond this world."

Right · 2He said he regretted saying it because he did not want to be associated with "new age" language, and Rogan agreed that the word "spirituality" has been co-opted by people he considers flaky. Right · 2Lorre argued that when cultures "took God out of the picture, they replaced it" with a Communist party or a fascist dictator, whose message is "Organize around me. It doesn't matter if I'm right or not", and that "people will". Right · 2He compared shared belief to a tent pole: if it moves "the tent comes down", which is why people become angry when their beliefs are challenged.

Right · 1Fox News added that Lorre was raised Jewish, joined the Church of Scientology in his youth and later embraced Buddhism, and that he marvelled that humans, unlike other animals, create religions. Right · 2Both outlets noted that at a Los Angeles charity event last month Lorre called President Donald Trump a "Russian asset", joked about the president having a heart attack, and used a derogatory description of First Lady Melania Trump; Breitbart added that the White House responded by advising him to "seek psychiatric help".

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Framing
Both outlets lead with Lorre's remark linking loss of belief in God to communism, fascism and tyranny, then add his earlier attacks on the Trumps.
Emphasis
The God-and-tyranny quote and the Trump insults; Breitbart includes the White House response.
Leaves out or plays down
Neither outlet includes a response from Lorre to the Trump criticism or any outside reaction to the podcast remarks. Both leave out his broader point that it does not matter whether a religion is 'true', beyond a passing mention in Fox.
Charged language
“Communism”“tyranny”“Famous producer”
For example
“A Society that Abandons God will Turn to Communism” — Breitbart
“Lorre used his acceptance speech to insult the first family” — Fox News
“the Hollywood producer is also no stranger to attempting to give others a bad name” — Breitbart

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