Chuck Lorre tells Joe Rogan societies without God turn to tyrannical ideologies
On Joe Rogan's podcast, producer Chuck Lorre said cultures that drop belief in God replace it with figures or parties like communism or fascism. Right-leaning outlets also noted his recent remarks about the Trumps.
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Right · 2Producer Chuck Lorre, who created "Two and a Half Men" and "The Big Bang Theory", discussed spirituality on "The Joe Rogan Experience" in an episode released on Tuesday 13 October. Fox NewsR “discussed the importance of spirituality on Joe Rogan's podcast Tuesday” Read at Fox News ↗ BreitbartR “during his appearance on Tuesday’s episode of The Joe Rogan Experience” Read at Breitbart ↗ Right · 1Fox News reported that Lorre released his memoir, "Sitcom: A Memoir", the same day. Fox NewsR “Lorre released his memoir, "Sitcom: A Memoir," on Tuesday” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 2Lorre said fame, adulation and wealth are "not the real solution", and that "the real solution is a spiritual solution. You have to find something beyond this world." Fox NewsR “"it's not the real solution. The real solution, you know, I'm going to say it and then regret it, but the real solution is a spiritual solution.” Read at Fox News ↗ BreitbartR “The real solution — I’m going to say it and then regret it — but the real solution is a spiritual solution.” Read at Breitbart ↗
Right · 2He said he regretted saying it because he did not want to be associated with "new age" language, and Rogan agreed that the word "spirituality" has been co-opted by people he considers flaky. BreitbartR “The term ‘spirituality’ has been co-opted by people that you do consider to be flaky.” Read at Breitbart ↗ Fox NewsR “Rogan agreed, saying he believes the term "spirituality" has been co-opted by insincere people” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 2Lorre argued that when cultures "took God out of the picture, they replaced it" with a Communist party or a fascist dictator, whose message is "Organize around me. It doesn't matter if I'm right or not", and that "people will". BreitbartR ““When civilizations or cultures took God out of the picture, they replaced it with a Communist party, with a fascist dictator,”” Read at Breitbart ↗ Fox NewsR “Lorre argued that it didn't matter if a particular religion was "true"” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 2He compared shared belief to a tent pole: if it moves "the tent comes down", which is why people become angry when their beliefs are challenged. BreitbartR “Because it’s like the tent pole. That tent pole moves, the tent comes down” Read at Breitbart ↗ Fox NewsR “Lorre compared shared religious beliefs to a tentpole holding society's understanding of reality together” Read at Fox News ↗
Right · 1Fox News added that Lorre was raised Jewish, joined the Church of Scientology in his youth and later embraced Buddhism, and that he marvelled that humans, unlike other animals, create religions. Fox NewsR “having been raised Jewish before joining the Church of Scientology in his youth and later embracing Buddhism” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 2Both outlets noted that at a Los Angeles charity event last month Lorre called President Donald Trump a "Russian asset", joked about the president having a heart attack, and used a derogatory description of First Lady Melania Trump; Breitbart added that the White House responded by advising him to "seek psychiatric help". Fox NewsR “call the president a "Russian asset" and joke about checking whether Trump had suffered a fatal heart attack” Read at Fox News ↗ BreitbartR “The White House responded by advising that Lorre “seek psychiatric help.”” Read at Breitbart ↗
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- Framing
- Both outlets lead with Lorre's remark linking loss of belief in God to communism, fascism and tyranny, then add his earlier attacks on the Trumps.
- Emphasis
- The God-and-tyranny quote and the Trump insults; Breitbart includes the White House response.
- Leaves out or plays down
- Neither outlet includes a response from Lorre to the Trump criticism or any outside reaction to the podcast remarks. Both leave out his broader point that it does not matter whether a religion is 'true', beyond a passing mention in Fox.
- Charged language
- “Communism”“tyranny”“Famous producer”
What every side reports
- Lorre appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience on Tuesday.
- He said cultures that removed God replaced it with a Communist party or fascist dictator.
- He said the real solution to the emptiness of fame is spiritual.
- Last month he made insulting remarks about President Trump and the First Lady at a Los Angeles event.
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Argues that shared belief organises society, that it matters little whether a religion is true, and that seeking something spiritual brings some salvation, while distancing himself from 'new age' language.
“in my own life, seeking a spiritual illusion — not finding it, but the act of seeking it — there’s some salvation in that.” — Breitbart
“he didn't wish to be associated with” — Fox News
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'Big Bang Theory' producer says societies who abandon God drift toward tyranny
Mixed Reports Lorre's spirituality remarks fairly fully, then closes by pointing to his insults of the first family.

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'Big Bang Theory' Producer Chuck Lorre: A Society that Abandons God will Turn to Communism
Mixed Headline stresses communism; the article quotes extensively and closes with a pointed jab at Lorre over his Trump comments and the White House reply.

- 14 Oct 12:19 First Fox NewsR 'Big Bang Theory' producer says societies who abandon God drift toward tyranny
- 15 Oct 02:49 +14h 30m BreitbartR 'Big Bang Theory' Producer Chuck Lorre: A Society that Abandons God will Turn to Communism
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