Rogan tells Michael Douglas Trump voters feel betrayed by Iran war
On his podcast, Joe Rogan told actor Michael Douglas that the Iran war has upset Trump supporters who wanted no new wars. He also explained why he left the Democrats.
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Right · 1Podcaster Joe Rogan discussed the war in Iran with actor Michael Douglas on his podcast, saying it has angered supporters of President Donald Trump who voted for him partly because of promises to avoid new wars. Fox NewsR “Podcaster Joe Rogan discussed the war in Iran with actor Michael Douglas on Wednesday, arguing that the conflict has angered supporters of President Donald Trump” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 1Rogan said, "I do not like this Iran war in any way, shape, or form," called it a "giant quagmire" with "no easy way out", and said he did not think the picture the administration painted of how it would go was "even remotely accurate". Fox NewsR “"I do not like this Iran war in any way, shape, or form," Rogan said.”“I don't think the picture that they painted of how this was going to go down was even remotely accurate.” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 2He said most people who voted for Trump on a "no more wars" basis "feel very upset that there's a new war going on", and in a separate passage reported by Breitbart said that "no wars" turned out "to not be real". Fox NewsR “And most people who voted for him based on that feel very upset that there's a new war going on.” Read at Fox News ↗ BreitbartR “We’re at a war with Iran, so that wasn’t real,” Rogan said.” Read at Breitbart ↗
Right · 1Rogan also acknowledged that some people argue the war was necessary, citing Iran as a major funder of terrorism and experts' warnings about its missile production and nuclear ambitions, and said he was sure "a lot of that's true". Fox NewsR “And I'm sure a lot of that's true.”“Rogan also acknowledged that experts have warned about Iran's increasing missile production and the dangers of the country acquiring a nuclear weapon.” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 1Douglas, described by Fox News as Jewish and a pro-Israel Democrat, agreed the war was a mistake, voiced concern about its expansion after an attack on an airport in Riyadh, and appeared to suggest Israel instigated it, saying he did not know how it persuaded Trump. Fox NewsR “Douglas, who is both Jewish and a pro-Israel Democrat, agreed that the conflict was a mistake.”“I think it was instigated by Israel by the fact that they had information that these key Iranian leaders would all be together” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 1Trita Parsi of the Quincy Institute told Fox News Digital that the war has frustrated the anti-war part of Trump's 2024 coalition and created a rift between "MAGA vs. America First"; he said many such voters may return to the Democratic Party. Fox NewsR “The war has created a major rift within the Republican Party and created a MAGA vs. America First coalition," Parsi said.” Read at Fox News ↗
Right · 1White House spokesperson Davis Engle responded that Trump "takes decisive action to eliminate threats", had campaigned on denying Iran a nuclear weapon, and that "Americans are already safer". Fox NewsR “Americans are already safer because of his bold leadership," he added.” Read at Fox News ↗ Right · 1In the same interview, according to Breitbart, Rogan said the Democratic Party lost him over what he called an "insane" open border, the party's handling of its primary and Joe Biden's mental decline; he also criticised ICE hiring practices under Trump. BreitbartR ““First of all, the open border was INSANE,” Rogan said.”“And it’s nuts to just give someone a $50,000 ICE signing bonus” Read at Breitbart ↗
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- Framing
- Fox News leads on Rogan's Iran war criticism as a warning for Trump, with an outside anti-war analyst and a White House reply; Breitbart leads on Rogan's reasons for leaving the Democrats, with Trump's broken 'no wars' promise secondary.
- Emphasis
- Fox stresses voter betrayal, polling and GOP rift; Breitbart stresses border, primary and Biden criticism.
- Leaves out or plays down
- Breitbart gives no detail on Rogan's Iran remarks beyond one quote and no White House response; Fox gives little of Rogan's criticism of Democrats.
- Charged language
- “quagmire”“Open Border was Insane”
What every side reports
- Rogan interviewed Michael Douglas on his podcast this week.
- Rogan criticised Trump over the Iran war and his 'no wars' promise.
Joe Rogan person
Opposes the Iran war and says Trump voters feel let down; also criticises Democrats on border and primary.
“I do not like this Iran war in any way, shape, or form," Rogan said.” — Fox News
“If you want me to be a Democrat while you’re just letting people fly in, I’m like ‘Hey! Fix that!’” — Breitbart
Michael Douglas person
Agrees the war is a mistake and suggests Israel instigated it.
“"I concur," Douglas said” — Fox News
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Rogan warns Trump's voters feel betrayed by Iran war with 'no easy way out'
Critical Presents Rogan's remarks as a warning of Trump voter betrayal, adding an anti-war analyst and a White House rebuttal.
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Joe Rogan Tells Michael Douglas Why Democrats Lost Him: 'Open Border was Insane'
Mixed Frames the interview as an account of why Democrats lost Rogan, noting his criticism of Trump's broken 'no wars' promise.
- 15 Oct 00:36 First Fox NewsR Rogan warns Trump's voters feel betrayed by Iran war with 'no easy way out'
- 15 Oct 16:47 +16h 11m BreitbartR Joe Rogan Tells Michael Douglas Why Democrats Lost Him: 'Open Border was Insane'
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