LA judge skeptical of DOJ bid to block count of 20,000 California ballots; ruling due Wednesday
U.S. District Judge David O. Carter heard a Trump administration request to stop California counting about 20,000 ballots from voters it says may be noncitizens. He appeared skeptical and said he would rule Wednesday.
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Left · 1U.S. District Judge David O. Carter in Los Angeles appeared skeptical on Tuesday of a Trump administration request to immediately block California officials from counting about 20,000 ballots from voters whose citizenship the administration questions. Los Angeles TimesLC “A federal judge on Tuesday seemed skeptical of a Trump administration request to immediately block California officials from counting about 20,000 ballots” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗ Left · 2After a 3½-hour hearing, Carter said he needed more time and would not rule until Wednesday, except to say it would be wise for any threats to state and county elected employees to cease immediately, which the LA Times called a clear reference to federal threats of criminal penalties against election officials who count the flagged ballots. Los Angeles TimesLC “he needed more time to rule — except on one related issue.” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗ Raw StoryL “This court believes it would be wise that any threats to state and county elected employees cease immediately. Good night,” Read at Raw Story ↗ Left · 1Carter questioned how the administration compiled its list ("What are these systems? What are the algorithms? How was this derived?"), said the demand would be a "monumental change" to California elections, and told First Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli that for illegal voters "you’ve got a remedy... Go out and indict." Los Angeles TimesLC “"What are these systems? What are the algorithms? How was this derived?" he said.”“"you’ve got a remedy, for goodness sakes," he told Essayli. "Go out and indict."” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗
Left · 2Raw Story, citing Politico's Kyle Cheney, reported an exchange in which Essayli said prosecutors were "very busy" and Carter replied "Get busier"; per Cheney, the judge also appointed a special master, which he described as effectively a win for California. The LA Times said Carter wanted to develop the record, including by bringing in an expert for the court. Raw StoryL “"We're very busy."”“The judge then appointed a special master to dig deeper into the issue” Read at Raw Story ↗ Los Angeles TimesLC “he would like to develop the record further, including by bringing in an expert for the court” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗ Left · 1Essayli argued the request was "very narrow": to separate ballots of suspected noncitizens until the state can prove their citizenship, not to stop them being counted. He defended the reliability of the flagging process while conceding "everything is 100%" could not be promised, and said afterward the administration would likely appeal if it lost. Los Angeles TimesLC ““on a very narrow request for an injunction to separate ballots of those suspected of being noncitizens””“the administration will wait to see what Carter says Wednesday but was likely to appeal the matter back up to the appellate court” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗ Left · 1Essayli denied threatening state officials, though the Justice Department sent letters last week warning county elections officials of criminal penalties; state officials called the letters legally baseless intimidation. Los Angeles TimesLC “He also denied threatening state officials, despite the Justice Department having sent formal letters to elections officials statewide last week warning them of criminal punishments” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗
Left · 1Lawyers for Secretary of State Shirley Weber and the state said the demand "distorts several legal doctrines beyond recognition" and relies on "data and methods known to be unreliable"; Deputy Attorney General Anne Bellows called it a "recipe for disenfranchisement." Attorneys for Los Angeles County's Dean Logan called the remedy "vague and unworkable," and civil rights groups questioned third-party data such as Lexis Nexis. Los Angeles TimesLC ““distorts several legal doctrines beyond recognition””““recipe for disenfranchisement””“"vague and unworkable,"” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗ Left · 1The Justice Department sued California, Weber and Logan on Oct. 15, after Acting Deputy Attorney General Trent McCotter gave them 48 hours to set aside ballots of 20,000 voters he called "likely noncitizens." Los Angeles TimesLC “The Justice Department sued California, Secretary of State Shirley Weber and Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder/County Clerk Dean Logan on Oct. 15” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗ Left · 2On Monday, a 9th Circuit panel ruled 2-1 that it lacked jurisdiction because Carter had not yet ruled; the Justice Department had gone to the appeals court after he did not meet its deadline of noon Oct. 22. The two judges in the majority wrote that they would also have rejected the case on the merits, while Judge Patrick Bumatay dissented. Los Angeles TimesLC “ruled 2-1 Monday that it had no jurisdiction to hear the case given Carter hadn't yet had the chance” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗ Raw StoryL “The DOJ had demanded he rule by noon Oct. 22 and appealed to the higher court when he didn't” Read at Raw Story ↗
Left · 1The LA Times notes that elections experts say noncitizen voting occurs but is exceedingly rare, and that Carter earlier rejected a DOJ suit for California's unredacted voter rolls as "unprecedented and illegal." Los Angeles TimesLC “Elections experts say such fraud occurs, but is exceedingly rare.”“"unprecedented and illegal"” Read at Los Angeles Times ↗
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Left2 outlets
- Framing
- Both outlets present the hearing as a skeptical judge pushing back on an overreaching Trump administration request; the LA Times is a detailed hearing report, Raw Story a shorter, punchier account built on other outlets' reporting.
- Emphasis
- Carter's skepticism, his warning to stop threats to election officials, and the state's arguments about disenfranchisement.
- Leaves out or plays down
- Raw Story gives little of the DOJ's argument; neither includes outside views supporting the administration's concerns beyond Essayli and Judge Bumatay's dissent (LA Times only).
- Charged language
- “power grab”“snaps at Trump DOJ”“Get busier”
- For example
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“seemed skeptical of a Trump administration request to immediately block California officials” — Los Angeles Times
“A federal judge grew openly exasperated with the Justice Department” — Raw Story
Centre0 outlets
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What every side reports
- Judge David O. Carter heard the request Tuesday and is expected to rule Wednesday.
- He appeared skeptical of the Justice Department's bid and warned that threats to election workers should cease.
- The 9th Circuit rejected the DOJ's attempt to bypass Carter the day before.
Where accounts differ
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Whether federal authorities threatened election officials
- Left
- Essayli denied threatening officials; the LA Times notes DOJ letters warned of criminal penalties and state officials called them intimidation.
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Reliability of the flagged list
- Left
- Essayli called the process's reliability unquestionable while conceding it is not 100%; state lawyers said it uses unreliable data and methods.
David O. Carter person
Skeptical of the request; wants a developed record and expert input, and said threats to election employees should stop.
“he would like to develop the record further” — Los Angeles Times
Department of Justice organisation
Says its request is narrow and that voters are being disenfranchised by illegal votes; likely to appeal a loss.
““We’re not telling California what they have to do. We’re telling them what they can’t do” — Los Angeles Times
Left2 articles
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Judge in L.A. weighs feds' request to block 20,000 California votes with skepticism
Neutral Detailed hearing report giving both sides' arguments while foregrounding the judge's skepticism and noting noncitizen voting is rare.

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‘Deeply skeptical’ judge snaps at Trump DOJ amid ‘monumental’ power grab: 'Get busier'
Critical Aggregated account casting the judge as exasperated with a DOJ 'power grab'.

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- 28 Oct 00:08 First Los Angeles TimesLC Judge in L.A. weighs feds' request to block 20,000 California votes with skepticism
- 28 Oct 00:22 +14m Raw StoryL ‘Deeply skeptical’ judge snaps at Trump DOJ amid ‘monumental’ power grab: 'Get busier'
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