Robert Carlyle reportedly joins The Gentlemen; Meghan said to be out of contention
The Sun reports Robert Carlyle has been confirmed for series three of Guy Ritchie's Netflix show The Gentlemen and that Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, will not be cast. The Daily Express and Daily Mail relay anonymous-source claims, and Netflix has not commented.
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The story, neutrally told
Right · 2The Sun has reported that Robert Carlyle, the Trainspotting actor, has been "confirmed" for series three of Guy Ritchie's Netflix show The Gentlemen; the Daily Express and Daily Mail relayed the claim. Daily ExpressR “The Sun claims a very different star has been “confirmed” for the programme – Trainspotting star Robert Carlyle.” Read at Daily Express ↗ Daily MailR “Robert Carlyle has reportedly landed himself a role alongside the all-star cast in Guy Ritchie's The Gentlemen.” Read at Daily Mail ↗ Right · 1The Mail describes Carlyle, 65, as set to appear alongside Theo James, Vinnie Jones and Kaya Scodelario, and says sources claim he will be announced in the next cast after the show was renewed for a third season. Daily MailR “Sources have claimed the Scotsman will be announced in the next cast after it was renewed for a third season.” Read at Daily Mail ↗ Right · 2An unnamed source told The Sun that "Robert is an industry icon and Theo himself made it clear he wanted him to be part of the show"; Theo James had earlier said he would like "someone psychopathic like old-school Robbie Carlyle". Daily ExpressR ““Robert is an industry icon and Theo himself made it clear he wanted him to be part of the show.”” Read at Daily Express ↗ Daily MailR “I would like someone psychopathic like old-school Robbie Carlyle,” Read at Daily Mail ↗
Right · 2The same source said Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, "is now out of contention. There was a meeting but it's been decided she won't be part of the cast". Daily ExpressR ““Meghan though is now out of contention. There was a meeting but it’s been decided she won’t be part of the cast.”” Read at Daily Express ↗ Daily MailR “'Meghan though is now out of contention. There was a meeting but it's been decided she won't be part of the cast,' they added to The Sun.” Read at Daily Mail ↗ Right · 1Earlier this year rumours said Meghan could return to acting in the show. The Express says sources then claimed an offer was withdrawn after "intense backlash" from UK audiences, with Tina Brown saying it "became untenable to go forward", while other sources said no formal offer was ever made and only an initial meeting took place. Daily ExpressR “Sources previously claimed an “offer was withdrawn” after “intense backlash” from UK audiences”“Other sources, however, claimed a formal offer was never made, and only an initial meeting had taken place.” Read at Daily Express ↗ Right · 1Cast members dismissed the rumour: Theo James called it a "spurious rumour" and said the practicalities were "impossible", and joked that Prince Harry was playing one of his love interests. Daily MailR “I think it's a spurious rumour. She'd fit in well because she's actually from the Royal Family, but I think the practicalities of that are impossible.'”“'No. Prince Harry is playing one of my love interests. So that's the Meghan Markle thing.'” Read at Daily Mail ↗
Right · 2The two papers attribute the remark that the idea was "a genius bit of marketing" to different people: the Express to Vinnie Jones, the Mail to Hugh Bonneville. The Mail also quotes Ray Winstone saying it was "the first I've heard of it". Daily ExpressR “Vinnie Jones, meanwhile, claimed: “I think it’s a genius piece of marketing by whoever just dreamt up that idea.” Read at Daily Express ↗ Daily MailR “And Hugh Bonneville was equally dismissive, describing it as 'a genius bit of marketing by the person who dreamt up that idea'.” Read at Daily Mail ↗ Right · 1The Mail says it has approached Carlyle's representatives and Netflix for comment; neither report includes a confirmation from Netflix, Carlyle or Meghan's representatives. Daily MailR “The Daily Mail has approached Robert's representatives and Netflix for comment.” Read at Daily Mail ↗
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- Framing
- Both tabloids treat the story as showbiz gossip sourced to The Sun, pairing Carlyle's reported casting with Meghan's reported exclusion; the Express leads on Meghan, the Mail on Carlyle.
- Emphasis
- Meghan's "plot" or "hopes" being dashed, cast members' dismissive quotes, and Carlyle's Trainspotting fame.
- Leaves out or plays down
- Neither has confirmation from Netflix, Carlyle or Meghan's representatives; the two disagree on who called the idea a marketing stunt. No left or centre outlets covered it.
- Charged language
- “plot to return to acting”“will be shattered”“Major update”
- For example
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“Major update on Meghan Markle's plot to return to acting in hit Netflix show” — Daily Express
“Duchess Meghan's hopes of starring on the Netflix show will be shattered after sources confirmed she will not be cast in the new series.” — Daily Mail
What every side reports
- Both papers cite The Sun's report that Robert Carlyle is joining series three of The Gentlemen.
- Both quote a source saying Meghan is "out of contention" after a meeting.
- Both quote Theo James calling the Meghan rumour "spurious" and saying it was impractical.
- Neither has confirmation from Netflix.
Where accounts differ
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Who called the Meghan idea a "genius" piece of marketing
- Right
- The Express attributes it to Vinnie Jones; the Mail attributes it to Hugh Bonneville.
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Whether Meghan was ever offered a role
- Right
- The Express says earlier sources claimed an offer was withdrawn after backlash, while others said no formal offer was made; the Mail says only that she will not be cast.
Robert Carlyle person
Reportedly joining the cast; the Mail says it has asked his representatives for comment and gives no response from him.
“The Daily Mail has approached Robert's representatives and Netflix for comment.” — Daily Mail
Meghan, Duchess of Sussex person
Reported by sources as out of contention after a meeting; no comment from her is quoted.
“There was a meeting but it’s been decided she won’t be part of the cast.” — Daily Express
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Right2 articles
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Major update on Meghan Markle's plot to return to acting in hit Netflix show
Mixed Leads on Meghan's supposed bid for a role, then reports she is out and Carlyle in, relying on The Sun's unnamed source and recapping earlier rumours.
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Mixed Leads on Carlyle's reported casting, presents Meghan's exclusion as settled by sources, and adds cast quotes and series background.
- 15 Oct 11:03 First Daily ExpressR Major update on Meghan Markle's plot to return to acting in hit Netflix show
- 15 Oct 11:04 +2m Daily MailR Robert Carlyle 'is the latest big star to sign up for Guy Ritchie's The Gentlemen' after Meghan was linked to role
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